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Message 103779 - Posted: 8 Dec 2021, 19:47:32 UTC - in response to Message 103778.  

Since the new 4.2 stuff came out I don't get python anymore.

I am getting both. It is just whatever they want to send out.
I would prefer only pythons. It is annoying that Big Brother decides what I need.
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Message 103780 - Posted: 8 Dec 2021, 19:52:04 UTC - in response to Message 103779.  

Since the new 4.2 stuff came out I don't get python anymore.

I am getting both. It is just whatever they want to send out.
I would prefer only pythons. It is annoying that Big Brother decides what I need.


I know that Jim. I hammered DEK (admin) via PM about that awhile back.
As usual, deafening silence from that side.
But then you know how difficult it is for them to make ANY changes.
Look how long it took to get that dang "button" and they don't make any mention of it on the main page.
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Message 103781 - Posted: 8 Dec 2021, 19:55:02 UTC - in response to Message 103780.  

Look how long it took to get that dang "button" and they don't make any mention of it on the main page.

Yes, that is very helpful to a lot of people. Or it would be, if they knew about it.
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Message 103783 - Posted: 9 Dec 2021, 16:08:46 UTC - in response to Message 103781.  

Look how long it took to get that dang "button" and they don't make any mention of it on the main page.

Yes, that is very helpful to a lot of people. Or it would be, if they knew about it.



Or it would be, if they knew about it. <-- exactly. No comm by Admin or anyone. Total silence is the game now.
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Message 103801 - Posted: 10 Dec 2021, 23:03:40 UTC - in response to Message 103799.  

먹튀검증 Kelly received a total of $1 million down payment of $300,000, annual salary of $600,000, and option $100,000 in the first year of LG. In the 2020 season, the total amount was raised to $1.5 million



Whos Kelly and what does this have to do with this project?
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Message 103804 - Posted: 11 Dec 2021, 1:41:32 UTC - in response to Message 103801.  
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먹튀검증 Kelly received a total of $1 million down payment of $300,000, annual salary of $600,000, and option $100,000 in the first year of LG. In the 2020 season, the total amount was raised to $1.5 million



Whos Kelly and what does this have to do with this project?
Spam. Best to ignore it.

I've been reporting the spam posts as i come across them, but are yet to have any of them removed & the spammer's account blocked. Other than the extremely occasional batch of Rosetta 4.20 Tasks, and Python Tasks only a few hundred systems can process, i think this place is just going to become a spammer dumping ground. It's certainly heading that way.
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Message 103864 - Posted: 19 Dec 2021, 5:02:06 UTC

I was having problems with too many of the vbox jobs trying to run at once, leaving not enough resources resulting in Rosetta and other project tasks not being able to run, resulting in lower overall performance. In my case, lowering Rosetta's resource from 200 (out of 500 - 40% share) to 100 (out of 400 - 25% share) is giving me 10-15% more work completed across all projects, haven't had any vbox jobs that had to be aborted since then.

BOINC is allowed 11/12 cores, 75% of 32GB RAM. Other projects are WCG and Yoyo.
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Message 103874 - Posted: 21 Dec 2021, 23:31:20 UTC - in response to Message 103864.  

I was having problems with too many of the vbox jobs trying to run at once, leaving not enough resources resulting in Rosetta and other project tasks not being able to run, resulting in lower overall performance. In my case, lowering Rosetta's resource from 200 (out of 500 - 40% share) to 100 (out of 400 - 25% share) is giving me 10-15% more work completed across all projects, haven't had any vbox jobs that had to be aborted since then.

BOINC is allowed 11/12 cores, 75% of 32GB RAM. Other projects are WCG and Yoyo.



Bring your questions and comments over to the number crunching section.
That's where we read and talk about stuff like this.
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Message 103910 - Posted: 26 Dec 2021, 15:26:50 UTC - in response to Message 103804.  

Other than the extremely occasional batch of Rosetta 4.20 Tasks, and Python Tasks only a few hundred systems can process, i think this place is just going to become a spammer dumping ground. It's certainly heading that way.


Where do you get that from? Almost everyone is capable of vbox if they try.
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Message 103966 - Posted: 31 Dec 2021, 23:43:18 UTC - in response to Message 103910.  

Where do you get that from? Almost everyone is capable of vbox if they try.


None of my systems are capable.
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Message 103967 - Posted: 1 Jan 2022, 0:22:46 UTC - in response to Message 103966.  
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If it's the Q9650 that's in your computer list then they do support VT-x according to this:
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/35428/intel-core2-quad-processor-q9650-12m-cache-3-00-ghz-1333-mhz-fsb/specifications.html

Your machines would still need to not run BOINC as a service (which is very annoying for me) and have VirtualBox installed though.

I have a Q8300 which doesn't support VT-x but some other versions of that chip do. I've got a replacement on the way but it might take a while...
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Message 103969 - Posted: 1 Jan 2022, 2:14:36 UTC
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I have aQ9450 that will run vbox,
the system only has 8GB of memory, and for python that is not enuff
the motherboard will `only` take max 16GB
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Message 103970 - Posted: 1 Jan 2022, 8:52:28 UTC - in response to Message 103966.  
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Where do you get that from? Almost everyone is capable of vbox if they try.


None of my systems are capable.


Sure they are.
You just need to enable virtualization. Intel® Virtualization Technology (VT-x)
The tasks use 2078 MB which means you can run 3 Python per computer and have a touch of memory left over in your current configuration.
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Message 103971 - Posted: 1 Jan 2022, 9:02:03 UTC - in response to Message 103969.  
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I have aQ9450 that will run vbox,
the system only has 8GB of memory, and for python that is not enuff
the motherboard will `only` take max 16GB


Python uses 2078 MB of memory per task and 56 MB of virtual memory.
8 GB will get your 3 tasks and a bit of memory leftover.
Vbox on my system uses rough 217MB in 7 processes. That will fit into your leftover memory.
And BOINC uses 623 MB on my system.

That makes 7 gigs of memory used. You still have 1 gig free for system and other uses.

BOINC and RAH should realize this and send you just that many tasks.
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Message 103973 - Posted: 1 Jan 2022, 10:53:30 UTC - in response to Message 103971.  

If I try to run python on a Windows 11 PC with 8 GB RAM I get the message that it is too small. Same if I try to run python on a Windows 10 PC with 24 GB RAM and 10 GB availablr to BOINC disk. The only PC with runs python has 12 GB RAm and 40 GB disk.
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Message 103975 - Posted: 1 Jan 2022, 12:09:33 UTC

I have not received any work in weeks. Is there a poblem?
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Message 103976 - Posted: 1 Jan 2022, 12:16:38 UTC - in response to Message 103975.  

I have not received any work in weeks. Is there a poblem?


No problem, just that the only work available are the Python tasks which require VirtualBox to be installed.
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Message 103981 - Posted: 1 Jan 2022, 13:14:39 UTC - in response to Message 103976.  

I have not received any work in weeks. Is there a poblem?


No problem, just that the only work available are the Python tasks which require VirtualBox to be installed.

And you have to:
Have BOINC installed and running under a logged in user account.
And hit the "Allow" button on the computer's page. If it says "Skip" then your ok to receive VBox tasks.
And have enough RAM and disk space allocated and free.
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Message 103982 - Posted: 1 Jan 2022, 15:55:24 UTC - in response to Message 103973.  

If I try to run python on a Windows 11 PC with 8 GB RAM I get the message that it is too small. Same if I try to run python on a Windows 10 PC with 24 GB RAM and 10 GB availablr to BOINC disk. The only PC with runs python has 12 GB RAm and 40 GB disk.
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But you have to remember that Python will take every core not in use and use it.
You need 2078 MB RAM per core to run. And it looks like you need about 7Gigs of disk space per core for the files.

6 cores is 16,248 MB of RAM and 42 Gigs of drive.
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Message 103983 - Posted: 1 Jan 2022, 17:16:48 UTC - in response to Message 103982.  

The tasks at just over 20% have grown to 2861MB per task.
Bakerlab folder is 13.7GB on drive but listed as 30.7GB actual.
One Python slot folder is 7.66 actual but drive size is 3.52GB
So if you were wanting to use all cores (6) you would need about 46 GB for the python slots plus Bakerlab folder and BOINC base folder. And then you have to subtract from your drive amount what Windows wants if your running it on the same drive.

You could get a drive similar to mine (Samsung internal mount SSD 250GB for 65 Euro to solve your drive problems. Memory...well that depends on what your MOBO can handle.

I am replacing 2 sticks of 4GB with 2 sticks of 16GB in addition to my 2 sticks of 8GB, but that is going to set me back 127 Euro but will last me the life of this current set up and then some. The 4 GB I have had for a long time.

So you might consider this kind of upgrade as you have money. At least the drive.
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