I've just emailed the rosetta@home game designers to see if they can help us overcome the problems we had with getting the graphics to work on Linux.

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/me raises hand

Me too... Using Debian 64 here.... Ram not a problem. (2gb here)

I GUESS THEY THINK WE ARE GOING AWAY and NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO THIS PROBLEM.

We are not useless consumers that you have to treat like morons.
We are not customers that you think you can IGNORE us.
I'm pretty angry right now. This is my government tax dollars at work,
GET IT FIXED.

Grow up. While I think having a nice looking client is important, demanding what's on your priority list is hardly the way to go about getting your point accross.

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I've just emailed the rosetta@home game designers to see if they can help us overcome the problems we had with getting the graphics to work on Linux.

Holy smokes, I didn't know you had game designers on board, but considering the responses to getting this working, I GUESS YOU DO.

Your USERS and Crunchers WANT a graphics client on Linux, give it to them.

/me raises hand

Me too... Using Debian 64 here.... Ram not a problem. (2gb here)

I GUESS THEY THINK WE ARE GOING AWAY and NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO THIS PROBLEM.

We are not useless consumers that you have to treat like morons.
We are not customers that you think you can IGNORE us.
I'm pretty angry right now. This is my government tax dollars at work,
GET IT FIXED.

Grow up. While I think having a nice looking client is important, demanding what's on your priority list is hardly the way to go about getting your point accross.

My priorities, hmm, I'm not the first to post this request, I'm only the millionth to be ignored.

Dylan, if you consider a personal response from Dr. Baker, Lead Scientist, to be "ignored", then noone here is going to be able to help you, and so there is no sense in posting further.

What Dr. Baker said was he contacted the folks working on their Rosetta@home game. This doesn't make them "game designers". I makes them scientists that are creating a game.

They attempted to do Linux graphics about a year ago and ran in to incompatibility issues in some of the BOINC routines which Rosetta is based upon, and so waited for those issues to be resolved before banging heads against walls for longer. This should not be construde as ignoring user requests. It simple indicates they've been unable to fulfill this one yet.

I don't think anyone will object to requesting the same graphic support for Linux that is available for Windows. What is being objected to is your word choice and tone which imply that you have executed a coup d'etat and taken over as head of the Project Team.

You will find on the Rosetta boards that a constructive and supportive tone will go over much better then all of the abrasive bitterness we've seen in your 11 posts so far.

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Rosetta Moderator: Mod.Sense

Is the solution to the problem graphics and linux close?

Since many users would use linux perhaps may get aid directly to the major Linux distributions (for example ubuntu, redhat, etc.) in order to resolve this problem in a reasonable time?
As boinc is an open source project should not be problematic, given the nature of the project believe that help would be granted without difficulty.

Among other things it can also give a good development of a 64-bit release.

Bye Alessandro

Note:
Among some return the Boinc project, maybe not much but better than nothing.

This is so frustrating. It's not like "graphics on Linux" is a new concept. How hard can it be when so many applications can pull it off. If a games company can make Linux-native versions of popular games like Descent, why can't Rosetta do a basic set of graphics for Linux? Take a look at the Simple DirectMedia Layer for a sample library you could use.

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This is so frustrating. It's not like "graphics on Linux" is a new concept. How hard can it be when so many applications can pull it off. If a games company can make Linux-native versions of popular games like Descent, why can't Rosetta do a basic set of graphics for Linux? Take a look at the Simple DirectMedia Layer for a sample library you could use.

dude your giving examples of commercial companies, and please change your tone, it cant be to hard to ask a question in a normal way, can it?
But the rosetta team is a team of scientist, and scientist gather scientific data, since their not all linux experts it can take a while to organize things, yes it can even take multiple years, cause there are more important things to do. like keeping the project running, create new work units, analyze the data. and i dont believe money is unlimited in this project so hiring some extra programdesigners might be to expensive. im shure they are having a look at it, but there are more important things to do, so just relax...

dude your giving examples of commercial companies, and please change your tone, it cant be to hard to ask a question in a normal way, can it?

After all this time, yeah it's getting pretty hard to not be mighty annoyed. Why should I believe that they are even looking into it? Nobody is posting updates here, it's just silence. I stopped running Rosetta months ago out of frustration over being ignored.

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dude your giving examples of commercial companies, and please change your tone, it cant be to hard to ask a question in a normal way, can it?

After all this time, yeah it's getting pretty hard to not be mighty annoyed. Why should I believe that they are even looking into it? Nobody is posting updates here, it's just silence. I stopped running Rosetta months ago out of frustration over being ignored.

so when you stopped, there is no need for you to come here and whine...

so when you stopped, there is no need for you to come here and whine...

There is a problem with that reasoning: (1) If I don't stop you can say "this issue doesn't make people stop Rosetta, so there is no need to fix it". (2) If I do stop you can say "the guy stopped, so we don't need to listen to him anymore".

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so when you stopped, there is no need for you to come here and whine...

There is a problem with that reasoning: (1) If I don't stop you can say "this issue doesn't make people stop Rosetta, so there is no need to fix it". (2) If I do stop you can say "the guy stopped, so we don't need to listen to him anymore".

conclusion, we dont listen to you.!?

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it seems they have listened to you!

This question has been asked at least half dozen times this year. I'm posting here for everyone else to read.

Q: Why are graphics are disabled in Linux?

A: "We haven't added the graphics version because it would only work on newer linux versions due to graphics library dependencies and the fact that Rosetta will not build using older versions of gcc (3.3 and older) necessary for graphics on older linux versions." We hope to have graphics in the linux application after the new release of BOINC 6.0, possibly sooner if resources permit.

its in the newby Q & A. so just be patient :P

dude your giving examples of commercial companies,

Btw, I can give examples of amateur projects too that have no problem doing 3D graphics on Linux.

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Q: Why are graphics are disabled in Linux?

A: "We haven't added the graphics version because it would only work on newer linux versions due to graphics library dependencies and the fact that Rosetta will not build using older versions of gcc (3.3 and older) necessary for graphics on older linux versions."

Linux runs on a hundred platforms and there are a hundred distributions. Are you going to hold off developing graphics because you can't get them to work on Slackware 2.0 running on an PlayStation 2?

Rosetta can ship with needed libraries if static compilation is not an option.

I don't understand what this has to do with gcc. It's not like 3D graphics on Linux only came out 4 years ago. All the 3D software I use has been around a lot longer than 4 years. But anyways, make a graphics version with gcc 3.4 or later and a non-graphics version with gcc 3.3 and let people download what they want.

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Q: Why are graphics are disabled in Linux?

A: "We haven't added the graphics version because it would only work on newer linux versions due to graphics library dependencies and the fact that Rosetta will not build using older versions of gcc (3.3 and older) necessary for graphics on older linux versions."

Maybe tell us how we can help You with graphics for Rosetta ?

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Rosetta can ship with needed libraries if static compilation is not an option.

I don't understand what this has to do with gcc. It's not like 3D graphics on Linux only came out 4 years ago. All the 3D software I use has been around a lot longer than 4 years. But anyways, make a graphics version with gcc 3.4 or later and a non-graphics version with gcc 3.3 and let people download what they want.

the problem is people don't download rosetta- it's automated so BOINC does that. BOINC would have to be told to download one version of rosetta for old Linux builds and one version for new Linux builds. Or the graphics could always be included and the rosetta would have to check whether the dependent libraries were in place before it attempted to show graphics...

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I've given up waiting, and use my cpu cycles for FAH. Call me when someone gets a graphic client.
(even if FAH only has a linux client right now, I get some satisfaction of sticking it to the man).

someone, make some screensaver for this guy!

Any news about this?

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